Scott Hamilton with Phil Pavitt at The Third Half starts with light humour before shifting into a candid conversation about Phil’s career, leadership journey, and the reality of stepping away from full-time executive life. Phil reflects on building his reputation across government, technology, and global organisations — and what it truly feels like to leave behind decades of responsibility and reinvention.
He talks openly about the next chapter: launching a coaching school for CIOs and CISOs, supporting new leaders with the guidance he once needed, and shifting his energy into meaningful charity and community work.
A funny, thoughtful, and genuinely important conversation — from early career stories and tough decisions to purpose, leadership, and building a life beyond the job title.
👉 Hit play for sharp career insights, big laughs, and the kind of honesty you don’t usually get from a retired CIO (quotation marks very intentional).
Or listen while pretending you’re focused, folding laundry, or questioning all your life choices in afternoon traffic.
https://player.captivate.fm/episode/34ed55cc-3787-486a-a0ca-cf14df873f6e/